32 dates without a drop of alcohol, by vibe, budget and time of day. Starting with the obvious one: a kava bar. A real bar, with stools and a crowd and something to play, and nothing on the menu to get drunk on.
By HappyKava, the app for kava bars. For first dates, fifth dates and everything between.
Here's the whole thing, start to finish, so you can walk in like you've done it a hundred times.
1
Walk in like you've been before
It looks like a bar: a counter, stools, music at talking volume, maybe a pool table in the back. No cover, no bouncer, no shouting over a DJ. The kavatender will walk you through the menu if you say it's your first time.
2
Order a shell, a kratom tea, or both
Kava comes in a shell, a little bowl. Kratom is a leaf; the tea comes hot or iced, sweetened or flavored. Get one of each and trade sips, or both get kava. Plus a bottle of water each. Ask if the bar has a first-timer deal.
3
Shells up! Then Bula!
Someone at the bar calls “Shells up!”, everyone raises theirs, and the whole place says “Bula!” together. Kava tastes like bitter earth, so you drink it in one go, then take a chaser. Laughing at each other's faces is part of it.
4
Find something to do side by side
Chess, trivia, an open mic, live music, pool, darts, board games, video games. A game gives your hands something to do and the awkward pauses somewhere to go.
5
Actually hear each other
The lighting is good for conversation and you don't have to shout. Your lips may go a little numb: that's how you know the kava is working, and it's a very funny thing to have in common five minutes in.
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Don't get rooted on a first date
“Rooted” is what kava people call having too much. One or two shells is plenty. You may feel very little the first time or two (reverse tolerance), so don't chase it.
A real bar, no alcohol
Stools, a counter, a crowd. Nobody asks why you're not drinking, because nobody is.
Open early, close late
Many open in the morning and stay open late, so a coffee-hour date, a lunch date and a late date all work.
Something to do
Games and events most days, so there's always a next thing to try if the talk runs dry.
Cheap
A shell usually costs less than a cocktail, and plenty of bars have Exclusive Deals for first-timers.
Morning shell
Lunch date
After work
Late
Kratom is a leaf, not a root. At kava bars it comes as a tea, hot or iced, often sweetened or flavored. It can be habit-forming, so go easy, and skip it if that's a worry for you.
Kava in eight lines
A social root drinkFrom Fiji, Vanuatu, Tonga and Samoa, where it's shared at gatherings.
Tastes like bitter earthSo you drink it in one go, then take a chaser.
Numb lips mean it's workingA tingle on the lips and tongue that fades in a few minutes.
Reverse toleranceYou may feel little the first time or two. Normal.
Best on an empty stomachSo maybe kava first, dinner after.
Drink waterKava dries you out. A glass alongside every shell.
Never with alcoholAnd skip it if you're pregnant, nursing or have liver problems.
32 sober date ideas, sorted your way
Kava bar dates first, then the rest. Pick a vibe, a budget and a time of day, or let us choose. First-date ideas are public, talkable and easy to leave.
Vibe
Budget
Time of day
Which date
32 ideas fit, all of them.
A kava shell (or two)At a kava bar
A real bar with no alcohol on the menu. One shell each, Shells up, Bula, and the conversation does the rest.
Chill · $ · Any time · First or later date
Trivia, team of twoAt a kava bar
Team of two. You learn how they think, how they lose and whether they know the capital of Vanuatu.
Playful · $ · Evening, Late · First or later date
Chess and a shellAt a kava bar
Something to look at when the pause gets long. Trash talk optional, rematch mandatory.
Chill · $ · Afternoon, Evening, Late · First or later date
Open mic or live musicAt a kava bar
Sit close, cheer loud, whisper reviews to each other between sets. Bonus points if one of you signs up.
Creative · $ · Evening, Late · First or later date
Pool or dartsAt a kava bar
Side by side beats face to face when you're nervous. Call your shots; the loser buys the next round of water.
Playful · $ · Afternoon, Evening, Late · First or later date
Board games off the shelfAt a kava bar
Every kava bar has a stack. Pick the one neither of you knows and learn the rules together.
Playful · $ · Any time · First or later date
Video games at the barAt a kava bar
Plenty of bars have consoles. A friendly round of something you're both bad at is a great equalizer.
Playful · $ · Afternoon, Evening, Late · First or later date
A morning shellAt a kava bar
Plenty of kava bars open in the morning. A 10 a.m. date has a built-in exit and nobody shows up hungover.
Chill · $ · Morning · First or later date
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Coffee and a walk
The classic for a reason. Walking side by side makes the quiet bits easy, and you can stop whenever.
Chill · $ · Morning, Afternoon · First date
10
A farmers market
Something to point at every few steps. Split a pastry, judge the dogs, buy one weird vegetable.
Chill · $ · Morning · First or later date
11
Pick a book for each other
Ten minutes, a small budget, and you each choose a book for the other. You learn a lot from what they pick.
Creative · $ · Afternoon, Evening · First or later date
12
A thrift store challenge
Ten dollars each, fifteen minutes, best (worst) outfit wins. Wear it to wherever you go next.
Playful · $ · Afternoon · First or later date
13
Museum on a late opening
Lots of museums stay open late one evening a week. Quieter rooms, something to talk about that isn't work.
Creative · $ · Evening · First or later date
14
Mini golf
Low stakes, built-in jokes, and a scorecard you can both lie on.
Playful · $ · Afternoon, Evening · First or later date
15
An arcade
Pool your tickets for the worst prize behind the counter. Skip the ones that serve beer if that matters to you.
Playful · $ · Afternoon, Evening, Late · First or later date
16
Bowling
Rental shoes humble everyone. Order fries, not pitchers.
Playful · $ · Evening, Late · First or later date
17
A climbing gym
Most gyms run an intro session. Cheering someone up a wall is a fast way to like them.
Active · $$ · Afternoon, Evening · First or later date
18
A dessert crawl
Three stops, one dessert each, split everything. A ranking at the end is required.
Chill · $ · Evening, Late · First or later date
19
Pancakes after midnight
A late diner booth is the best talking spot there is. Bottomless coffee, no last call.
Chill · $ · Late · First or later date
20
A botanical garden or zoo
Lots of walking, lots of things to read out loud to each other. Go early, before the crowds.
Chill · $$ · Morning, Afternoon · First or later date
21
A comedy show
Laughing together does half the work. Some clubs have a drink minimum: ask for a soda or a mocktail, it counts.
Playful · $$ · Evening, Late · Later date
22
A mocktail or NA bar
If one of you wants the cocktail-bar feeling, alcohol-free bars and good mocktail menus are everywhere now.
Chill · $$ · Evening, Late · First or later date
23
A pottery or painting class
Messy hands, wonky results, something to keep. Book a beginner class and laugh at each other's bowls.
Creative · $$ · Afternoon, Evening · Later date
24
A cooking class
Teamwork, knives, and dinner at the end. Better as a second or third date, when you've already met.
Creative · $$ · Evening · Later date
25
An escape room
An hour to find out how you solve problems together. Maybe not for date one.
Playful · $$ · Afternoon, Evening · Later date
26
A hike with a view
Pick a popular trail for an early date, a quiet one once you know each other. Bring snacks.
Active · Free · Morning, Afternoon · Later date
27
Bikes to somewhere good
Rent a pair or ride your own to a lookout, a taco stand or a beach. Helmets are hot, actually.
Active · $ · Morning, Afternoon · Later date
28
A run club or a yoga class
Show up together, do the thing, get breakfast after. Sweaty, but honest.
Active · Free · Morning · Later date
29
A picnic in the park
A blanket, sparkling water, the good snacks. Easy to make an afternoon of it.
Chill · $ · Afternoon · Later date
30
An old movie theater
Better once you've talked already, since you can't for two hours. Debate it after over something sweet.
Chill · $ · Evening, Late · Later date
31
Volunteer together
A shift at a food bank or an animal shelter. You see who someone is fast.
Creative · Free · Morning, Afternoon · Later date
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Stargazing
Drive out somewhere dark with a blanket and a star app. Bring layers and hot cocoa.
Live from the bars' own listings in the HappyKava app: dateable events in the next seven days, and the games bars list. A slice of what's on, not all of it.
Opens this deal in the free HappyKava app. No app yet? You'll get the download link.
How to suggest it without it being weird
It's only weird if you make it a speech. A plan with a place and a time sounds like someone who knows what they're doing.
When they say “drinks?”
I'm down to hang, but I don't drink. Kava bar instead? Still a bar, I promise, just no hangover.
On the app
I don't really drink, so instead of drinks: kava bar? It's like a bar, minus the hangover. They have chess.
Keep it light
Coffee or kava? I know a spot with trivia on Thursdays and I need a teammate.
If you want to be upfront
Heads up, I don't drink. Doesn't mean I'm boring. Mini golf Saturday, and I'm going to win.
Morning person
Hear me out: a 10 a.m. date. Coffee, a walk, and if it's going well, we keep walking.
Lead with the plan, not the explanation
“Let's do trivia at this kava bar” lands better than a paragraph about why you don't drink. A specific place and time sounds confident.
You don't owe anyone your story
“I don't drink” is a full sentence. Share the why when you want to, on your timeline, if ever.
Offer two options
“Kava bar or coffee walk?” gives them a say and makes either answer a yes.
Nerves are normal
Without a drink to hold, pick a date with something to do: a game, a walk, a show. The activity carries the first ten minutes.
Keep date one short
An hour or so, with an easy exit. If it's good, there's always one more game.
What to do if your date drinks
Usually: nothing. Sometimes: a little something.
Them ordering a drink is fine
Lots of great dates happen with one person drinking. Order what you want and keep going. You don't have to make it a thing.
If they ask why, one line is enough
“I just don't, and I feel better for it.” Then ask them something. If you're in recovery, you decide if and when that comes up.
Pushing is information
“Come on, just one” more than once tells you a lot about date two. You're allowed to leave.
If it's a trigger, say so or pick the place
Choose a dry venue for the first few dates. Being around alcohol is allowed to be a dealbreaker.
Kava and alcohol don't mix
If your date has been drinking, skip the kava for them: water, tea or coffee instead, or reschedule. Never mix the two.
Keep it safe, keep it fun
Meet in public
A busy bar, café or park for the first few dates. Kava bars count: staff, regulars, good lighting.
Tell a friend
Where you're going, who with, and when you'll check in.
Get yourself there and home
Your own ride both ways, so leaving is always easy.
Don't drive if you feel impaired
Kava and kratom can affect how you drive. If you feel it, get a ride. Same rule as any bar.
Dating in recovery is your call
Kava isn't alcohol, and kava bars don't serve any. Kratom can be habit-forming. Whether it fits your recovery is your call, and your program's. Never mix kava with alcohol.
Want to talk to someone? SAMHSA's National Helpline is free, confidential and open 24/7, in English and Spanish.1-800-662-4357
Questions
Is it weird to suggest a date without drinking?
No. Plenty of people don't drink, or are cutting back, and a specific plan sounds more fun than “drinks?” anyway. Suggest a place and a thing to do, like trivia at a kava bar or a coffee walk, and skip the long explanation.
What do I say when a match suggests grabbing drinks?
Say yes to the date and swap the place: “I don't drink, but I'd love to meet. Kava bar or coffee walk?” A counter-offer with a real plan reads as keen, not awkward.
Is sober dating only for people in recovery?
Not at all. People skip alcohol for health, sleep, money, faith, training, medication or just because they feel better. A date without drinks is simply a date.
What's a good first date if you don't drink?
Somewhere public, talkable and easy to leave: a kava bar, a coffee walk, a farmers market, mini golf, a bookstore, or a museum on a late opening. Save the long or messy ones, like cooking classes and escape rooms, for later dates.
Is a kava bar a good first date?
Yes, for a lot of people. It's a real bar with no alcohol on the menu, the music is at talking volume, there's usually something to play side by side, and many are open from morning to late. HappyKava lists 776 kava bars that don't list alcohol.
Does kava get you drunk?
No. Kava is a social root drink from the Pacific islands. People describe a relaxed body and a clear head, not drunk and not high. It tastes like bitter earth, so you drink a shell in one go and take a chaser. You may feel little the first time or two.
What should I say if my date asks why I don't drink?
Whatever you're comfortable with. “I don't drink” is a complete answer. If you're in recovery, you decide whether and when to share that.
What if my date orders alcohol?
That's usually fine: order what you want and carry on. If it's a trigger for you, pick dry venues for early dates. If they keep pushing you to drink, that tells you something. And kava should never be mixed with alcohol.
Can I drive after a kava bar?
Don't drive if you feel impaired. Kava and kratom can both affect driving, so if you feel it, get a ride home.
Is a kava bar OK if I'm in recovery?
Whether it fits your recovery is your call, and your program's. Kava isn't alcohol, and kratom can be habit-forming. If you need to talk to someone, SAMHSA's free National Helpline is open 24/7 at 1-800-662-4357.
Before your first shell
First-timer dealsExclusive Deals for your first visit. A first-date deal, basically.